Curse

Captain Bulldozer · Apr 06, 2011, 03:30 AM // 03:30

After hitting both GWAMM and 50/50 I have recently shifted my attention to one of the only things I have never accomplished: Legendary Defender of Ascalon. Now I know it's actually not that hard to get now, especially with repeat farming of the daily quests over and over, but this bores me. Instead I have been heavily farming charr, at least until I reach lvl 15 or 16, then I will turn my attention to hard core vanguard missions. Anyway, the point is I have farmed a lot of charr. I mean A LOT. Thing is, I still have yet to ever even see a charr kit drop.

Yes I know they're rare and all, but I've gotten more than 20 runes, a similar number of purples, several black dyes and 7 charr bags without so much as seeing one.

Thus my question to the GWGuru community is: What is the largest number of charr bags you have obtained as drops without obtaining a charr kit as a drop?

I'm trying to gather info on just how rare they are in comparison to bags. My thinking is that, while a pre-char has use for 2 bags, the demand on charr kits is somewhat more, while the drop rate seems to be MUCH lower in my experience. The current market price of a kit is in the 9-10k range, which is an huge amount for pre-searing (not to say that there aren't plenty of people who can afford it)...

My second question is: Should a change to either the number of uses or the drop rate of charr kits be made? I seriously doubt anet will bother with this, but I am curious about other players' opinions at least.

DokkyDok · Apr 06, 2011, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Warrior: solo charr farming 9-15. Got 7 bags and 1 kit
Monk: solo charr farming 10-15. 3 bags and 3 kits

Drop rate is fine imo. I have never gotten a black dye in pre though, and I've raised two chars to 16.

go cubs · Apr 06, 2011, 03:39 AM // 03:39

On my character, I farmed charr up until level 15. At that point I stopped and waited until the day I would bring him up to 20 from D-Leveling. (the new quests changed all this though).

During my days of farming, I received 3 charr bags and 2 charr kits. I never got a black dye so honestly, I think it is just luck. I would assume that the kits might drop a little less than the bags, but they arnt extremely rare comparatively.

Star_Jewel · Apr 06, 2011, 03:47 AM // 03:47

I have a necro and an ele in Pre and farmed charr between levels 8-14 with a friend (pre-Langmar). I got about 10 charr bags, but only 1 salvage kit.

My friend leveled several characters with charr, I think he got a couple kits. Yes, the drop rate is low.

That said, I don't think there needs to be a change. 2 kits would fully outfit a character. If you're in it to sell the runes/insigs (which probably means you're perma and pretty high level, so the bosses shouldn't pose much challenge), then you should have to work to make that profit.

Aba · Apr 06, 2011, 03:59 AM // 03:59

My Monk recently got LDOA today.this was my process
ele quest in foible fair...till lvl 6 I think...
Then Charr at gate till I got only like 16xp per kill so I stopped and
Then farmed charr across the Gate,and Vangaurd quests till level 19.
Then I did all quests. and the last bit of XP from Vangaurd quests.
In all that I only got three bags and one Kit. (2 of those bags were that double drop rate weekend)

The Mountain · Apr 06, 2011, 04:11 AM // 04:11

Had a fairly even ratio, myself, until I started DLing seriously. Then after killing the lvl'd charr, I'd run over and kill the bosses quick. Got like 5 kits and two bags...gogo luck.

Lasai · Apr 06, 2011, 04:21 AM // 04:21

On my current Pre Char.. 9 Bags, two kits. 3 of the bags were on two runs yesterday.

Kojima · Apr 06, 2011, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DokkyDok

I have never gotten a black dye in pre though, and I've raised two chars to 16.

I have had a couple of black dyes dropped on me in pre but never a kit! LOL

shodannet · Apr 06, 2011, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Im currently grinding the mobs during Footman Tate to get to level 20, and I think I've had 3 or 4 charr bags and 2 or 3 salvage kits. I'm under the impression the charr bags, even though I'm only level 16. Will continue with Footman Tate/grinding charr (and charr bosses) north of the gates til I hit 19.

**cosyfiep** · Apr 06, 2011, 04:29 AM // 04:29

no bags, no kits....but I get dyes....(made a brand new mesmer--2nd drop BLACK dye...she left pre with it as this was a while ago)...got another black dye with my perma pre yesterday or the day before (her first black).

ChrisCo · Apr 06, 2011, 04:34 AM // 04:34

When getting to lvl 20 i got ...

1 black
1 white
1 salvage kit
4 Charr bags
and 600 Charr Carvings (whatever im proud of it =p )

Must have done about 200+ runs of the bosses. So the kits a rare or im realllly unlucky.

LordDragon · Apr 06, 2011, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Lvl 17 at the moment

Got a black Dye just yesterday on my pre character. That would make three in pre but farmed pre like crazy during the dye drop weekend so long ago.

I have gotten more runes than I know what to do with, at least 7 bags and a few kits. If I had to guess I would say at least 3. I would really like to see the kits drop more often. Did one of the northern vanguard quests the other day with a level 16 Elementalist. She had a kit and a bag drop for her on our first run. Dang lucky it seemed. We did the run twice. Just junk the second run.

Divine Ashes · Apr 06, 2011, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I'm level 18 atm. I managed to get to level 16 by killing Charr (this was before vanguard quests), and I've yet to see a charr kit drop. But, I have managed to get 8 charr bags.

Also, I never even got a black dye until I was level 17, when I got black dyes from two consecutive groups of gargoyles in the catacombs...go figure.

Kityn · Apr 06, 2011, 11:10 AM // 11:10

My guildy and I teamed up for pre searing for LDoA. So far we are level 14. She has gotten much better drops than me for sure.

Her: 4 Charr Bags,2 Charr Salvage Kits,1 Black Dye, and 1 White dye.
Me: 3 Charr Bags and 1 Charr Salvage Kit.

Aeronwen · Apr 06, 2011, 11:11 AM // 11:11

hmmm, my perma has been in pre more than 5 years, I think she was a pretty high level before the bags/kits were introduced. Until recently she has not had any reason to spend much time around the charr bosses, so I am not sure how useful my info is but I have had around 9 bags and 4 kits (and about 17 black dyes).

Hobbs · Apr 06, 2011, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I never realised how are Charr Kits are, I went one on run to The Northlands with a friend as a GM, of the 4 Charr bosses he got a Charr Bag and I got a Kit. Perhaps I sold it too cheap.

RedDog91 · Apr 06, 2011, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisCo

and 600 Charr Carvings (whatever im proud of it =p )

You are going to make so much money when Nick collects carvings

(gotta get them out of pre though...)

Anyway, I only had the patience to get a character to level 15 in pre-searing (this is before vanguard quests) and didn't get a single charr kit. Got 2 bags though.

epervier · Apr 06, 2011, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I have a perma-pre character that's about a year and a half old. I admit that he hasn't done much charr farming so he hasn't got a single bag or kit, But he has 5 black dyes right now and sent 4 to post-searing thru a mule. He mostly farms for nick gifts and vanguard quests. I think he'll get LDoA in a month.

Urcscumug · Apr 06, 2011, 02:41 PM // 14:41

I got something like one or two black dyes in 6 months of playing in Pre, one kit, one bag. That's it. Got various runes and purples, but mainly from low-level Charr. The bosses don't drop anything good for me; they drop whites (salvage armor and silly weapons).

Gli · Apr 06, 2011, 02:48 PM // 14:48

I've had many, many bags drop. I have 2 for myself (obviously), I gave 2 guildies 2 bags each when they started a pre character, and I've sold lots of them, once even 6 in a few minutes when I was cleaning up my inventory. I don't have an exact number, but I can't have had any less than 20 of them by now. Just had another one now when I cleaned out the bosses while doing the champion quest.

And charr kits? Never had one drop.